ࡱ> \^[q  %bjbjt+t+  cAA U]2222222tn$bd d 4% KTlT$j2A k " A A i 22bi i i A 222222A i bi 22.4pl jMemorandum U.S. Department Cleveland ARTCC of Transportation 326 East Lorain Street Oberlin, Ohio 44074 Federal Aviation Administration _____________________________________________________________________________________________ Subject:  FORMDROPDOWN : Partial Transcript; Date: September 17, 2001 Aircraft Accident; N591UA (UAL93); Somerset, PA September 11, 2001 From: Cleveland ARTCC To: Aircraft Accident File ZOB-ARTCC-287 This transcription covers the Cleveland ARTCC,  FORMTEXT Indianhead Radar position for the time period from  FORMTEXT September 11, 2001,  FORMTEXT 1358 UTC to  FORMTEXT September 11, 2001, 1418 UTC. Agencies Making Transmissions Abbreviations CFMDECFMDECleveland ARTCC Indianhead Radar PositionIHD-RCleveland ARTCC Imperial Radar Associate PositionIRL-RAN20VFN20VFCleveland ARTCC Imperial Radar PositionIRL-RUnknownUNKN I hereby certify that the following is a true transcription of the recorded conversation pertaining to the subject  FORMDROPDOWN  involving N591UA (UAL93): Jeffrey M. Rich Operations Support Spec. Cleveland ARTCC 135813591359:18CFMDEah cleveland center mike delta echo ah wed like lower now i guess for johnstown ah 1359:24IHD-Rok ah charlie foxtrot mike delta echo roger um ill tell you what ah charlie foxtrot mike delta echo hold on one second here ok charlie foxtrot mike delta echo what i want you to do sir is make a right turn right turn heading one eight zero please right turn heading one eight zero 1359:46CFDMEok ah mike delta echo were in the right turn ah for a one eight zero heading 1359:52IHD-Rok sir theres a very good reason for this 1359:56CFMDEvery good ah1400 1400:02CFMDEwell just maintain our altitude here mike delta echo because were ah ah we might lose ya if ah we go lower 1400:08IHD-Rok maintain your ah maintain your ah altitude sir thats good 1400:19IHD-Rcharlie foxtrot mike delta echo ah sir we have traffic out there thats heading your way hes about twenty mile behind ya right we think hes at seventy five hundred and its its a ah u s united jet ah seven fifty seven and we think hes at seventy five hundred ill keep you advised 1400:41CFMDEok ah mike delta echo very good140114021402:13IHD-Rok charlie foxtrot mike delta echo i want you to turn left make it a left turn a tight turn please heading three six zero 1402:21CFMDEmike delta echo were in the tight turn three six zero 1402:24IHD-Rok that traffic is behind you turning to the southeast hes ah about ten miles behind you 1402:31CFMDEmike delta echo1403 1403:09IRL-RAim giving you track control on that united ninety three 1403:12IHD-Ralright thank you 1403:13IRL-RAalright 1403:25IHD-Rok charlie foxtrot mike delta echo sir youre cleared direct johnstown when youre able sir if you could take a look or have somebody in the back take a look and see if you see traffic he would be in your five o clock position and ten miles we think hes at eight thousand feet 1403:44CFMDEah mike delta echo is looking and negative contact at this time you said you wanted us to go direct johnstown 1403:50IHD-Rdirect to johnstown sir you can start that descent again 1403:54CFMDEmike delta echo 1403:55IHD-Rsir ive lost the ah primary on this guy too i think hes ah to your south now but ill keep you advised 1404 1404:01CFMDEthank you and were still ah negative contact there ah lookin at ah five o clock140514061406:27IRL-RA(unintelligible) its likely that united is down weve got a report from a guy at twenty four of a column of black smoke off his left 1406:32IHD-Rthank you 1406:34IRL-RAalright but we dont have confirmation 1406:38N20VFhello cleveland falcon twenty victor fox descending to niner thousand out of ten point eight 1406:40IHD-Rfalcon two zero victor foxtrot sir check for an e l t do you see any ah activity out there probably on your right side smoke or anything like that 1406:53N20VFnegative were searching 1406:57N20VFyeah we do have ah smoke puffs now at about ah oh probably two o clock 1407:03IHD-Rok your two o clock and i need to know how many miles sir 1407:18IHD-Rok ah three zero victor fox two zero victor foxtrot sir can you give me a ah position on the ah activity there 1407:29N20VFyeah its ah guesstimating maybe ten miles for two zero victor foxtrot maybe a thousand feet or so below us 1407:36IHD-Rok a thousand feet below you and its in your two o clock position you say ten miles 1407:41N20VFaffirmative appears to be just a ah dark cloud like a puff of black smoke 1407:46IHD-Rok sir i uh i dont want to put you in any kind of situation but if you can you see anything over there sir do you see any flames or anything 1407:57N20VFah negative on the flames ah we dont detect any flames cant see that much of the ground from here 1408:03IHD-Rok two zero victor foxtrot you can descend at your discretion maintain five thousand sir do you have g p s on board is there any way you can give me any kind of ah fix on this 1408:15N20VFah we do have g op s i dont know how we can give you an accurate fix without flying over the position over there 1408:21IHD-Rok sir i dont want to put you in any kind of situation but ah if you can think you can fly over it you can have whatever altitude you want and give us the exact g p s on that ah that would probably help us out 1408:35N20VFok well head over in that direction and were goin to five thousand two zero victor fox 1408:40IHD-Rok two zero victor foxtrot let me know when you get there sir and well get a ah lat long from it thank you 1408:48N20VFwill do ah two zero victor fox140914101410:13IHD-Rand two zero victor foxtrot ah you about over that now? 1410:18N20VFwere coming on it im gettin ready to call you with the coordinates do you want me to do that 1410:23IHD-Ryes please sir1411 1411:01N20VFand center two zero victor fox were coming up on that our coordinates are four zero zero two point two seven eight five four point seven and ah it looks like ah dark smoke on the ground on the edge of a field ah bordered by a treed area or forest area at the end of a road 1411:19IHD-Rok sir you seeing any kind of flames or anything 1411:23N20VFah no flames ah black smoke and its the end of a dirt road ah ah near a wooded area were circling now 1411:36IHD-Rcan we do that with johnstown through tower when he goes over to tower ok yeah go ahead 1411:41IRL-Ryeah this is imperial gopher zero six 1411:43IHD-Ruh huh 1410:44IRL-Rif i can im going to take him down towards that report of smoke area 1411:49IHD-Ri i just got it bill i have it i have the a guy right over it right now you can do what you want but i have a guy down there at five thousand feet overflew it we got the lat longs and everything 1411:56IRL-Ris that him 1411:59IHD-Rand a report 1412:01UNKNthat was the united 1412:04IHD-Rhe sees smoke and he didnt see flames he sees smoke and and 1412:04IRL-Rvisual positive i d on alright 1412:05IHD-Rright 1412:15IHD-Rok sir can you see any kind of wreckage or anything out there 1412:17N20VFas we get around this side of it ha the smoke is blowing away from us we do se flames ah its on the edge of like i say a wooded area ah and a very fairly ah clean ah field but i dont see wreckage i do see flames now and ah dark smoke 1412:33IHD-Rok two zero victor foxtrot roger ah im gonna keep you there for just one more second in case we need a little more information if thats ok with you sir 1412:43N20VFyeah everything appears to be ok with us 1412:46IHD-Rah we think it was a united jet sir that was bombed141314141415141614171418End of Transcript ZOB-ARTCC-287 N591UA (UAL93) ZOB-ARTCC-287 N591UA (UAL93) Page  PAGE 3 of 6    ?=FHIWXYnw\]ghiyzĿĿĿ}q}jOJQJU OJQJmHjOJQJUjOJQJU CJOJQJj>*OJQJU >*OJQJj>*OJQJUOJQJ CJOJQJ5CJOJQJ5CJOJQJ5CJOJQJ CJOJQJ CJOJQJCJ$jOJQJUmH+ ;<=)* :=CIJtz $$l ($ ;<=)* :=CIJtz{   i  a b c d l r ' ( ) * 2 8      3pX (,:{ | c d ) * E F N O   JKyz\];<^_xy ijj%OJQJU >*OJQJjOJQJUOJQJ OJQJmHjOJQJUjeOJQJULz{   i 48*$ $$l (  a b c d l r | $$l *p H+$ ' ( ) * 2 8 E F K L M N O W ]     $ p$< $$l *p H+$8 E F K L M N O W ]     $ * HIJKSYyz#Z[\]ek9:;<DJ\]^_gnvwxy (.gh b$ * HIJKSYyz#Z[ ,  $$l *p H+$[\]ek9:;<DJ\]|$, $$l *p H+$]^_gnvwxy (.ghijrh( $$l *p H+$hijrx     lmrstuz{|}#-./08?fghiqwyz{| FGHIQWDEFGOU brx     lmrstuz{|}$ ` $$l *p H+$  lmtu|}/0hi{|HIFG_`DE+,YZabij#$ABJKmn'(7 8 ! !)!*!H!I!m!n!!!!!""Q"R"N#O###5$6$x$y$$OJQJc#-./08?fghiqwyzl $$l *p H+$z{| FGHIQW`, $$l *p H+$DEFGOUl| $$l *p H+$#)]^_`hnBCDEMS)*+,4:YZ_`abghijrx!"#$,2ABGHIJKSYklmnv|%&'(06 b#)]^_`hnBCDEMS  $$l *p H+$)*+,4:YZ_`abghijrx!" 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